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[0:04] hi everyone welcome to Sunday night
[0:07] thrive
[0:08] this week we're here with dr. Margaret
[0:10] Paul she is the author of inner bonding
[0:14] as well as diet for divine connection
[0:16] her new book which was just released a
[0:18] few weeks ago and welcome to the show
[0:21] Margaret thank you very much
[0:23] could you tell us a little bit about
[0:26] your new book to get started yeah I'd
[0:30] love to talk about it this is a book
[0:33] that really will teach people how to
[0:37] have at will access to their higher
[0:41] source of love and wisdom and I think
[0:43] most people would love to know that
[0:45] they're not alone that they're always
[0:46] being guided but they don't know how to
[0:49] have that two-way communication and so
[0:53] the first half of the book talks about
[0:57] well it's about frequency it's about how
[0:59] high we can keep the vibrancy of our
[1:04] energy and so the first half of the book
[1:07] has to do with our physical body and you
[1:10] know what's happened in our culture is
[1:12] that there's so much junk in the food
[1:16] that people don't realize that it's it's
[1:19] lower their vibrance yeah that's why
[1:20] there's so much illness going on and
[1:22] anxiety and depression so much of it is
[1:25] on the physical level and so I go very
[1:28] deeply into what's happening with the
[1:30] food and what needs to happen for people
[1:33] to raise their frequency on the physical
[1:35] level but the problem is that even if
[1:38] people know this and they know what it
[1:40] means to eat well they've got a lot of
[1:43] stuff in the way of that because you
[1:46] know food and alcohol and drugs and all
[1:48] that are used as you know very addictive
[1:51] ly by people because they don't know how
[1:54] to manage their feelings you know they
[1:56] get anxious they depress and get
[1:58] depressed they get angry they get lonely
[2:00] they feel helpless over situations they
[2:03] get heartbroken they feel shame they
[2:06] feel guilt they feel jaws they don't
[2:09] know what to do they don't know how to
[2:11] learn from their feelings they don't
[2:13] know how to
[2:14] we manage their feelings which is why so
[2:17] many people are on medication for their
[2:19] anxiety and depression because you know
[2:21] just take a pill put a lid on it don't
[2:24] deal with it well you know that has its
[2:26] own side effects as well and a lot of
[2:30] recent research has shown that when
[2:33] people take medication and they eat junk
[2:36] food it disrupts the the gut flora the
[2:39] microbiome and it and that toxicity that
[2:44] it creates goes right up into the brain
[2:46] it's just like if you drink alcohol you
[2:48] know it goes right up into your brain
[2:49] well the toxicity from food and from
[2:53] medications goes into your brain and
[2:55] that toxicity itself creates the anxiety
[2:59] and the depression and so it becomes a
[3:01] vicious circle and people have no idea
[3:04] what else to do you know the the
[3:08] medication isn't working really well for
[3:10] them they're stuck feeling really badly
[3:13] well my book really addresses all of
[3:16] this it addresses the the anxiety and
[3:20] the depression on the physical level and
[3:23] on the emotional level so the first part
[3:27] of the book is dealing with the physical
[3:29] level of what keeps our frequency too
[3:33] low to access our higher guidance at
[3:36] will and the second part is the inter
[3:38] bonding process because this is what
[3:40] people need in order to be motivated to
[3:44] take care of themselves physically if
[3:46] they're if they don't value themselves
[3:49] if they think they're not good enough
[3:50] which so many people have been brought
[3:52] up to have these false beliefs that
[3:54] they're just not good enough then why
[3:57] would they be motivated to take care of
[3:59] themselves we we take care of what we
[4:01] value in our bonding workshop and could
[4:09] you tell us a little about this core
[4:11] inner bonding process what yeah it's
[4:16] really an amazing process that that
[4:18] we've been evolving for the last 34
[4:20] years it's a process see I was working
[4:24] as a traditional psychotherapist for 17
[4:26] years
[4:27] I did not like what was happening with
[4:29] that I just did not see people really
[4:32] healing them on a deep level and I
[4:34] didn't see people pardon me
[4:36] Oh what were you seeing if I can ask
[4:38] well you know people would feel better
[4:40] after a session but they you know if
[4:43] something would happen in their lives
[4:44] they didn't know how to deal with it
[4:46] they had to keep coming in and coming in
[4:48] and trying to get help but they didn't
[4:50] learn a process that they could use at
[4:53] any time and so I started to pray for a
[4:57] process that would really go deep in
[5:01] terms of healing that people could learn
[5:03] to do and help themselves so they
[5:06] wouldn't always have to run to somebody
[5:08] if they were feeling badly well that's
[5:11] when I met the co-creator of inter
[5:13] bonding dr. Erica Cho pitch she had half
[5:15] the process I had half the process of
[5:17] course we had to meet spirit made sure
[5:19] we met and we put it together and it's
[5:22] been evolving all this time and now it's
[5:24] a worldwide process it's it's become so
[5:28] amazing I am so thrilled with this
[5:30] process it's been completely
[5:32] life-changing for me
[5:34] in my life is completely different than
[5:36] it was before inter bonding and I heard
[5:40] from people all over the world even
[5:41] people I don't work with who learn inner
[5:43] bonding on their own and their lives are
[5:46] completely changing and of course my
[5:48] clients I mean they're just sometimes
[5:51] one or two sessions and and everything
[5:53] changes for them and what are some of
[5:55] the results that you're hearing from
[5:57] clients these people riding in from
[5:59] around the world I'd be really
[6:00] interested to hear well one thing is is
[6:04] that they really get a handle on their
[6:06] anxiety and their depression and they
[6:08] learn what to do about they know what to
[6:10] do about it and then they become
[6:13] motivated to take care of themselves on
[6:16] many levels but especially physically
[6:18] with what they put in their bodies and
[6:21] then they find that their addictions
[6:23] start to fall away like if they're
[6:26] addicted to sugar or to alcohol I hear
[6:29] all the time I haven't had a cigarette
[6:31] in two months or I'm completely off
[6:34] sugar for the first time I've tried so
[6:35] many times but now I had not even drawn
[6:38] to it
[6:39] their relationships are improving so
[6:42] much because one of the things people
[6:44] don't realize is that they've never
[6:47] learned to take responsibility for their
[6:49] own feelings and how to truly love
[6:52] themselves and this is what the inner
[6:54] bonding process is about how to take a
[6:57] hundred percent responsibility for your
[6:59] own feelings and how to learn to truly
[7:02] love yourself in our society we don't
[7:05] have role models for that and so in
[7:07] order to know how to do it in any given
[7:10] moment you gotta have access to your
[7:12] higher guidance you see you gotta know
[7:15] how to say okay what's loving to me
[7:18] right now what's in my eye is good right
[7:20] now you got to know how to receive those
[7:23] answers and so this is what inner
[7:26] bonding teaches sorry
[7:29] ask what does it mean to take
[7:33] responsibility for our feelings like
[7:35] you're saying it's a very new concept in
[7:37] our culture that's right okay so let's
[7:39] say that you're angry and you're you're
[7:43] so convinced that your anger is because
[7:45] somebody else has been unloving to you
[7:48] somebody else has put you down judged
[7:51] you rejected you pulled away from you
[7:54] and of course most people think well of
[7:56] course I'm angry look what they're doing
[7:59] but in the inner bonding process what we
[8:02] teach is that the anger is really our
[8:06] inner or inner self which we can call
[8:08] our inner child or our soul or our
[8:11] essence
[8:11] angry at us because we don't know how to
[8:15] take care of ourselves in the face of
[8:17] somebody else's unloving behavior what
[8:20] we're doing is we're abandoning
[8:23] ourselves so somebody gets angry and we
[8:25] get defensive and we explain and we give
[8:29] ourselves up and we shut down and we
[8:32] take it personally and we feel horrible
[8:34] and then we blame the other person of
[8:37] course I feel this way because this is
[8:38] what you did but what we teach is to go
[8:42] is to turn it around and go inside and
[8:45] say to your inner self how am i treating
[8:49] you what am I telling you how am i
[8:52] judging you
[8:53] how am i abandoning you how am I not
[8:56] being an advocate for you in the face of
[8:59] what somebody else is doing that you're
[9:01] now angry at me and that in herself
[9:05] might say well you're judging me all the
[9:07] time you you're you're putting me down
[9:09] just like that person you don't stand up
[9:12] for me you don't get me out of range
[9:15] when somebody is being mean you you let
[9:18] me get beat up by this person you're not
[9:20] taking care of me you ignore me you
[9:23] don't even know I'm here
[9:25] you go up in your head you know I'm out
[9:27] with food you don't even know I exist
[9:30] because you've done everything you can
[9:33] to numb out me which is the feeling
[9:35] cells
[9:36] I'm the feeling self inside and that
[9:39] feeling self is a source of enormous
[9:42] information that feeling self lets us
[9:44] know whether we're loving ourselves or
[9:46] abandoning ourselves and so if we're
[9:49] feeling angry or we're feeling anxious
[9:53] or depressed or guilty or shamed or
[9:56] empty or alone or jealous these are all
[10:00] feelings that are saying you're
[10:02] abandoning me you're rejecting me and I
[10:07] need you to pay attention to me and when
[10:09] we feel peaceful and full and loved and
[10:13] valued then we know we're loving
[10:16] ourselves taking loving care of
[10:18] ourselves but most people they learned
[10:21] to completely disconnect from their
[10:23] bodies because we had to do that when we
[10:25] were growing up there was a lot of pain
[10:28] for most people and when we were little
[10:31] who taught us how to handle pain in fact
[10:34] the people who should have taught us may
[10:36] have been hurting us and so we learned
[10:40] to go up in her head we learned to
[10:41] disconnect dissociate from our feelings
[10:43] we learned to think feelings were weak
[10:46] we learn to think that we were bad if we
[10:48] were feeling our feelings we're supposed
[10:50] to just be okay all the time and so we
[10:53] learned to disconnect with the inner
[10:56] bonding process people learn to
[10:58] reconnect with their feelings they learn
[11:02] how to learn what their feelings are
[11:04] telling them they learn how to embrace
[11:07] their feelings with compassion rather
[11:10] than being judgmental towards themselves
[11:13] for their feelings and so these feelings
[11:16] they're here and they're they're
[11:17] speaking to us and so taking
[11:21] responsibility means we don't move away
[11:24] from our feelings we move towards them
[11:26] we move inside we move into an intention
[11:30] to learn in the inner bonding process
[11:32] there's only two intentions possible at
[11:35] any given moment one is you want to
[11:38] learn about how you're treating yourself
[11:41] what your false beliefs are
[11:44] what's loving to you the other intention
[11:47] is you want to protect against pain with
[11:50] some form of controlling behavior so
[11:53] there's only there's tension there's
[11:56] only these two intentions I either want
[11:58] to get love and avoid pain or I want to
[12:01] learn to love myself and share my love
[12:04] with others because truly unless we
[12:07] learn to fill ourselves with love we
[12:09] don't have love to share with others and
[12:11] this is one of the main problems that
[12:13] happens in relationships is people get
[12:16] into relationships abandoning themselves
[12:19] they feel empty they feel alone they
[12:22] feel unworthy unlovable and so they hope
[12:26] this other person is gonna make them
[12:29] feel whole and okay but the problem is
[12:32] we attracted our common level of self
[12:35] abandonment so if we're abandoning
[12:38] ourselves this other person is also
[12:40] abandoning themselves because someone is
[12:42] truly loving themselves isn't gonna be
[12:45] attractive to somebody who's abandoning
[12:47] and rejecting themselves and so then
[12:50] these two people who are rejecting and
[12:52] abandoning selves feeling empty alone
[12:54] and unworthy they come together and they
[12:56] have these huge expectations that the
[12:59] other person is gonna make them okay but
[13:02] they can't they're not making themselves
[13:04] okay they're not loving themselves when
[13:07] we don't love ourselves we don't have
[13:09] love to share with somebody else and so
[13:12] that relationship might be okay for a
[13:15] little bit but it's gonna falter
[13:19] and then people think oh I got together
[13:21] with the wrong person no that's not the
[13:24] issue you got together with the right
[13:26] person if you're both open to learning
[13:28] and learning to take responsibility for
[13:31] your feelings you see so it this is this
[13:35] is vital for for relationships for
[13:38] people to learn to love themselves which
[13:40] they're gonna learn to do in this course
[13:42] they're gonna learn the six steps of
[13:44] inter bonding they're gonna learn what
[13:47] it means to love themselves physically
[13:50] emotionally spiritually within
[13:53] relationships organizationally
[13:56] financially they're gonna learn what it
[13:58] means to truly show up for themselves
[14:01] and that's what creates the sense of
[14:05] fullness and peace inside beautiful
[14:08] times in relationships there is that you
[14:12] can see the honeymoon phase where it
[14:13] feels very nice and people feel
[14:16] connected like you're saying there's
[14:19] that it starts to falter and what is
[14:22] that from this viewpoint what's going on
[14:24] there well let's see at the beginning
[14:27] people are on their best behavior but
[14:31] people come into relationships if
[14:33] they're not loving themselves they come
[14:35] in with two major fears one is the fear
[14:38] of rejection and the other is the fear
[14:40] of losing themselves of being controlled
[14:43] and engulfed so fear of losing yourself
[14:45] fear of losing the other so at the
[14:47] beginning you know people are on their
[14:49] best behavior they're they're acting the
[14:51] way they think they need to act but when
[14:55] they're not taking care of their own
[14:57] feelings what happens is that these
[15:01] fears get activated see we all have a
[15:05] programmed part of us you can call it
[15:08] the ego we called the wound itself and
[15:10] this is a part that's programmed into
[15:13] our lower brain it it's in the
[15:16] fight-or-flight mechanism and we all we
[15:19] all develop this as part of our survival
[15:21] and this part of us is filled with a lot
[15:25] of fears and false beliefs so let's say
[15:28] two people get together and they're
[15:30] having a great time and they're having
[15:32] great sack
[15:33] really you know enjoying each other but
[15:35] then let's say one day the husband is
[15:39] late coming home from work and then
[15:42] maybe the next day he's like coming home
[15:44] from work and them and and the woman
[15:47] says well you know what's going on he
[15:49] said oh I just had a lot of work to do
[15:51] well now she's getting triggered into
[15:54] her fear of rejection and that wound
[15:56] itself starts to say oh he's losing
[15:59] interest in me he's finding out I'm not
[16:01] good enough maybe he's met somebody else
[16:04] she starts to get scared and when she
[16:08] gets scared she starts to act out with
[16:11] her programmed ways of trying to control
[16:14] so she may start to nag at him you know
[16:18] well you know it's not okay for you to
[16:20] always come in light and and you know
[16:22] you didn't used to come home late and
[16:24] whether you know what's really going on
[16:26] there well now his fear of being
[16:29] controlled gets triggered and he starts
[16:34] to feel trapped because now she's kind
[16:38] of you know she's nagging him her tone
[16:39] of voice isn't loving she's not open to
[16:42] learning she's just trying to control
[16:44] him and his fear is one of being
[16:47] controlled because most people have both
[16:48] these fears I'm gonna be controlled or
[16:50] I'm gonna lose the person well what he
[16:53] does when he when his fear of being
[16:56] controlled gets activated as he starts
[16:58] to shut down
[17:00] that's his way of not being controlled
[17:03] well the more he shuts down what do you
[17:05] think she does she starts to get angry
[17:08] and the more angry she gets the more he
[17:11] shuts down well pretty soon all the love
[17:15] that was there it's gone and that's when
[17:18] these people come in and they would
[17:20] start to work with me and she says in
[17:23] typical blaming fashion well if he
[17:25] wouldn't shut down I wouldn't be angry
[17:26] and he says in typical blaming fashion
[17:29] well if she weren't angry I wouldn't be
[17:31] shut down and in a sense they're both
[17:35] right but they're both wrong because
[17:37] they came in with these fears and they
[17:41] came in with their learned ways
[17:45] of protecting themselves their learned
[17:48] ways of trying to control which
[17:50] inevitably will get activated in any
[17:54] relationship so if these people don't
[17:57] know how to take responsibility for
[17:59] their feelings if she doesn't know how
[18:01] to go in and say I'm wondering what I'm
[18:02] telling myself that's causing me to be
[18:05] scared oh I'm telling myself he's met
[18:08] somebody else is that true do I really
[18:10] know that you know or I'm maybe I'm just
[18:14] making this up and scaring myself
[18:17] because inside she's feeling scared
[18:19] she's really insecure he's actually not
[18:22] doing anything to do that he probably is
[18:24] overworked right then but she's she's
[18:28] telling herself these things scaring
[18:31] herself have having no idea that she's
[18:34] the one doing it
[18:35] and so she has no idea how to take
[18:39] responsibility for her feelings so she's
[18:41] blaming him he then she gets angry he
[18:45] has no idea how to take care of himself
[18:47] in the face of her anger he has no idea
[18:50] how to say wait a minute what's going on
[18:52] here he doesn't know about moving into
[18:54] an intention to learn he doesn't know to
[18:58] say honey you seem really upset I really
[19:01] like to understand what we don't what
[19:03] are you telling yourself what's going on
[19:05] here that your nagging at me or being
[19:07] angry with me no he doesn't know how to
[19:09] do that and so he puts up the wall
[19:12] because he's afraid of being controlled
[19:15] he doesn't want to give himself up so
[19:17] all he knows to do is put up the wall
[19:18] and then she doesn't know to move into
[19:22] an intention to learn she doesn't know
[19:24] to say to him you know we've become
[19:27] distant and there must be a good reason
[19:29] and I'd like to understand what you see
[19:31] going on between us she doesn't know to
[19:34] do this because there's been no role
[19:36] modeling for that I didn't know how to
[19:38] do this until I started to practice at
[19:41] everybody I had no idea I did the same
[19:44] thing everybody else was doing but once
[19:48] these people start to understand how to
[19:51] take responsibility for their own
[19:53] feelings how to go in and learn from
[19:55] them how to access their higher guidance
[19:58] we
[19:58] guarding what's loving to themselves how
[20:01] to move into an intention to learn with
[20:03] themselves and with each other
[20:05] magically their relationship starts to
[20:08] improve that's what happens when I work
[20:12] with people
[20:12] it sounds really beautiful one thing
[20:15] you've mentioned a few times is this
[20:18] intention to learn being open to
[20:20] learning what is the significance of
[20:23] that are we really so close to learning
[20:26] in our fight-or-flight State yes we're
[20:29] very close because we've learned from
[20:33] childhood that we need to avoid pain at
[20:37] all costs because it overwhelms us we
[20:39] don't know what to do with it we don't
[20:41] know how to manage it and that's why I
[20:43] said so many people are on medication
[20:44] they just don't know what to do with
[20:46] their pain they don't recognize like
[20:48] like let's say you're you're slicing
[20:51] bread and you cut your finger you need
[20:56] that pain don't you what pain is telling
[20:58] us something that if you keep cutting
[21:00] you're gonna really hurt yourself now if
[21:03] you had numb to your handout before
[21:05] slicing the bread you could really cut
[21:08] into your your finger and really do harm
[21:10] and so you need the pain because the
[21:14] pain is saying stop you're doing
[21:16] something that's hurting me okay our
[21:20] emotional pain is saying the same thing
[21:22] you're doing something that's hurting me
[21:24] or somebody else is doing something
[21:26] that's hurting me
[21:27] and you need to tune in you need to take
[21:30] care of me you need to learn but because
[21:33] we didn't have the role model and
[21:36] because we've had someone to junk food
[21:39] and and medication and alcohol and all
[21:43] this stuff
[21:44] our vibrancy our frequency is too low to
[21:47] access the information that we need in
[21:52] order to love ourselves and it sounds
[21:55] like it's there that we can't connect
[22:02] with it's not like learning like going
[22:05] and reading a bunch of books acting was
[22:08] something that's available could you say
[22:10] yes yes you see our feeling
[22:12] when we show up as what we call inner
[22:16] bunny as a loving adult a loving adult
[22:18] is who we are when we're open to
[22:20] learning and we're connected with our
[22:22] higher love and wisdom so like if you're
[22:25] with a child and the child is upset and
[22:27] you say to the child well what's the
[22:29] matter now the child is not going to
[22:33] feel safe to tell you right nothing
[22:36] nothing or you know you say oh well you
[22:39] know here you are upset again here's a
[22:40] cookie go sit in front of the TV and
[22:43] well the child is not going to be helped
[22:44] by that it's the same thing on the inner
[22:47] level if we approach our feelings like
[22:49] well you know this is just going on and
[22:53] on you know this this should stop what's
[22:55] going on there is no way that our inner
[22:58] self is gonna let us in but if we're a
[23:01] loving adult and we're compassionate and
[23:04] we're open to learning rather than
[23:06] trying to control something you know
[23:10] eating the cookie and sitting in the
[23:11] front of the TV is a way to avoid that's
[23:14] a way to control but if we're a loving
[23:17] adult and we're compassionate and we say
[23:20] to our inner feeling self honey what's
[23:23] what's happening is is there some way
[23:26] I'm treating you is there something
[23:28] that's going on with somebody else
[23:30] that's causing this pain I'm here for
[23:32] you I really want to know we're gonna
[23:36] start to learn a lot about how we're
[23:39] treating ourselves or if we're saying
[23:41] you know we're with this person right
[23:44] now but you're feeling scared and
[23:46] agitated would you please tell me what
[23:49] you're picking up because we have we
[23:52] have intuition that most people will
[23:54] learn to avoid and and you know it's
[23:58] like when I was little and I was picking
[24:00] up things from people and my mother
[24:03] would say you know go hug Uncle Joe and
[24:06] in my stomach hugging Uncle Joe made me
[24:10] sick I was not allowed to honor
[24:15] my feelings well this is this is
[24:19] teaching people to honor so that if
[24:21] there was somebody and the energy feels
[24:24] really bad we learn to trust it and we
[24:28] learn to take care of it and this is a
[24:30] lot of what inner body is about learning
[24:33] to trust our inner guidance and learning
[24:36] to trust our higher guidance so that we
[24:41] can we become our own guru we access
[24:45] that information which is absolutely
[24:47] amazing when we're open to learning when
[24:50] we really want to know
[24:52] but if our if our goal is just to avoid
[24:55] paying which is what we learned to do
[24:59] there's no learning our frequency is too
[25:02] low we can't access that information
[25:05] when the intention is to protect and
[25:08] avoid and control we access it only when
[25:13] we're open to learning about what's
[25:15] loving to ourselves about our false
[25:18] beliefs about the truth and about loving
[25:23] action towards ourselves and with others
[25:26] so it's vital the intention to learn is
[25:29] basic to the inner bonding process and
[25:33] when we do open up with that intention
[25:35] to learn and we get in touch with our
[25:37] our inner guidance that feeling self and
[25:40] the higher guidance what are some of the
[25:43] common messages that people start to
[25:45] receive if there is anything Commodore
[25:48] is it very individualized no actually
[25:50] it's quite common very often when they
[25:53] go inside their inner self inner child
[25:57] whatever you want to call that feeling
[25:58] part is gonna say things like you ignore
[26:02] me all the time you don't even know I'm
[26:05] in here you ignore my feelings you don't
[26:07] listen to me you make other people's
[26:10] feelings way more important than mine
[26:12] other people come first and they always
[26:15] have or you're putting a lot of pressure
[26:18] on me you're telling me I have to be
[26:20] perfect you're judging me as not being
[26:23] good enough all the time of course I'm
[26:25] anxious of course I'm depressed what do
[26:28] you expect
[26:29] when you're treating me this way you're
[26:32] telling me that I have to do everything
[26:34] right so that so-and-so will think I'm
[26:37] okay you're rejecting me all the time
[26:40] you don't think I'm okay you don't treat
[26:43] me like I'm okay you're always telling
[26:46] me that unless this person or that
[26:48] person or this person likes me I'm not
[26:51] okay you're telling me I have to perform
[26:54] for them I have to achieve I have to get
[26:57] A's I have to make this amount of money
[27:00] I have to have this or that in order to
[27:03] be okay I have to look a certain way you
[27:07] don't know me at all
[27:09] you don't know who I am you don't know
[27:12] that I am this incredible beautiful soul
[27:15] within you you don't even know I exist
[27:19] these are some of the things that people
[27:21] tune into this is very important it's
[27:27] very profound yeah a lot of the viewers
[27:30] can relate to some of these notions as
[27:33] things that are know the chatter and the
[27:35] mind that we try to turn off yeah
[27:38] because you know many of our parents
[27:41] treated us like we weren't good enough
[27:44] like we had to be perfect like we had to
[27:47] perform that their love was conditional
[27:49] on how we looked or how many a is we got
[27:51] or or how many friends we had or
[27:54] whatever and so we absorbed all of that
[27:57] and then we start to treat ourselves the
[28:02] way we were treated by our parents or
[28:05] caregivers or peers or siblings or or
[28:08] the church or whoever and we just
[28:12] perpetuate the abuse the you know
[28:15] whether it's physically treating
[28:16] ourselves badly emotional really judging
[28:20] ourselves we perpetuate it then we
[28:22] wonder why we feel so bad in the process
[28:27] sounds so valuable
[28:28] are there obstacles that you encounter
[28:31] with people getting them started say yes
[28:35] you know yes yes people go into
[28:38] resistance
[28:40] the wounded part of us wants to keep the
[28:43] status quo the wounded part believes why
[28:45] I've kept you alive as long why rock the
[28:49] boat
[28:50] and so the wounded part says let's just
[28:53] keep doing what we're doing let's just
[28:55] keep the status quo
[28:56] and and also what happens is that if
[28:59] people grew up with parents who are very
[29:01] controlling they learn to be very
[29:03] resistant that fear of being controlled
[29:05] is very very big and so they they
[29:09] integrate that into their their ego
[29:12] wound itself and so they often have one
[29:15] part that's like the controlling parent
[29:18] you know you better do this you got to
[29:20] do that well you know get up early
[29:22] exercise don't eat any sugar stop
[29:24] drinking you know nagging nagging
[29:27] telling you what to do well then they
[29:29] have another part inside that's um
[29:31] that's learn to resist you can't tell me
[29:33] what to do you're not the boss of me I
[29:36] don't have to do what you say so it
[29:38] creates this inner power struggle where
[29:40] they get immobilized and this happens
[29:43] with a lot of people they just get
[29:44] immobilized they say yeah I want to eat
[29:47] well but you know I wake up and I say
[29:51] you know today I'm not gonna have any
[29:52] sugar and before I know it I'm eating
[29:54] the cupcake you know what's going on
[29:57] here what's going on is that this work
[30:01] these wounded parts of themselves which
[30:03] are many different ages inside are in
[30:06] charge and they've got this power
[30:09] struggle going on well until they
[30:11] develop the loving adult which is what
[30:14] happens when you practice in their
[30:16] bonding inner bodies like the workout
[30:18] for the loving adult one of the things
[30:21] that recent research shows is that our
[30:23] brains have neuroplasticity which means
[30:26] we can always learn we can always
[30:29] develop new neural pathways well we've
[30:32] got like railroad tracks in our lower
[30:34] brain you know for for judging ourselves
[30:37] for resistance for trying to control
[30:40] ourselves and others with the practice
[30:43] of the six steps of inner bonding you
[30:45] develop new neural pathways in your
[30:48] higher brain your prefrontal cortex the
[30:51] more you practice the
[30:52] six steps and they're very definitive
[30:55] and they're not that hard to learn but
[30:56] they take practice the more you practice
[30:59] them the more you develop your loving
[31:02] adult self so whereas I used to be
[31:06] addicted to sugar and I used to be
[31:08] addicted to anger and a whole lot of
[31:10] things as I practice in her bonding and
[31:13] developed these new neural pathways I
[31:16] don't have any of those anymore because
[31:19] I don't automatically go to my lower
[31:22] brain I now automatically go to my
[31:25] higher brain and so now if somebody
[31:29] brings in you know yummy sugar stuff
[31:32] which I used to eat all the time
[31:35] my higher brain says you know I love you
[31:38] so much
[31:39] and I know if I eat this I'm gonna cut
[31:42] you off from our guidance I love being
[31:44] connected at will to my higher guidance
[31:47] and I know if I eat this my my vibrancy
[31:50] my health everything is going to tank so
[31:53] I have no problem not eating it I'm not
[31:56] even tempted because it's not loving to
[31:59] me and my adult is in charge and one of
[32:02] the things that's BC I started here's a
[32:04] little interesting story I was a sickly
[32:08] child and I just hated being sick and so
[32:11] in my early 20s I started reading
[32:13] everything I could about health and I
[32:16] threw out everything in my kitchen and
[32:18] there was one little health food store
[32:20] in LA at that time and so I started
[32:22] eating all organic all fresh
[32:24] I was the health food nut okay that was
[32:29] 56 years ago I'm 78 now I have
[32:33] unbelievable health
[32:35] I have unbelievable energy I have no
[32:39] other itis I have no brain things you
[32:43] know awesome memory anything like that
[32:46] going on but I've been doing this for 56
[32:48] years so not only have I achieved this
[32:52] extraordinary health and energy by
[32:54] eating well but
[32:56] one of the things that became very
[32:58] important to me was this connection with
[33:01] spirit and so even though I was eating
[33:04] really well I still I still couldn't
[33:07] have it now I'm going to have it here
[33:08] and there but I didn't have it at will
[33:11] then inter bonding came in spirit
[33:14] brought us enter bonding and I realize
[33:16] wow the intention to learn is such a
[33:20] huge key and so I started practicing
[33:23] being open to learning practicing or
[33:26] bonding all of a sudden I have this quo
[33:30] this connection that's there I can
[33:32] access I ask questions I'm getting
[33:34] answers it was like amazing so I thought
[33:39] oh okay it's about the intention to
[33:42] learn and I start working with my
[33:45] clients getting them to open to learn
[33:47] they still can't access and I finally
[33:51] put it together that it was both how I
[33:54] was eating and the intention to learn it
[33:59] kept my frequency high enough to access
[34:03] my guide and said well and that's when I
[34:05] realized I had to write this book this
[34:07] is this is the this is the new book diet
[34:10] for divine connection and it says beyond
[34:12] junk foods and junk sots to at will
[34:15] spiritual connection that's what it's
[34:18] about because that's what I finally put
[34:20] together Wow it's about frequency and
[34:23] because I had been eating so well for so
[34:25] long once I open to learning it was just
[34:29] there and would you recommend people
[34:31] start with that book or your first book
[34:34] in her bonding well in Urbani actually
[34:36] wasn't my first book my first book was a
[34:38] much older one the one that was a huge
[34:40] seller was called do I have to give it
[34:42] me to be loved by you
[34:43] but if they're gonna come to the
[34:45] workshop I think the diet for the vine
[34:48] connection that that's the most recent
[34:50] one and that's the one that I think
[34:53] would be most helpful before they come
[34:55] to the work they don't have to read it I
[34:57] mean they're gonna get what they need
[34:58] but it's you know the more you learn the
[35:00] deeper you go in any experience you have
[35:03] so if people come having read it they're
[35:07] just gonna get a deeper experience
[35:09] if they don't have time on our website
[35:11] we have a free interbody course that's
[35:14] much shorter that will help them as well
[35:17] but you know sometimes people just don't
[35:19] like to read and that's okay they can
[35:22] just bring themselves and for people
[35:24] joining us live you'll find a link to
[35:26] both that inner bonding workshop online
[35:29] as well as to the book in the chat
[35:32] section and in the comments and Margaret
[35:36] since there is this kind of beautiful
[35:37] opportunity to experience the work in
[35:40] person could you share about kind of
[35:43] what happens in the in-person workshop
[35:45] and why that's so special and we've
[35:48] heard great things from participants
[35:50] there you could also share from your
[35:51] side yeah well see the workshop is a
[35:54] combination I'll be doing some lecturing
[35:57] but it's it's people go into small
[36:00] groups they they do processes there
[36:04] they're actually learning the process
[36:05] there at the beginning they're learning
[36:07] who the wound itself is who are they as
[36:10] a woman itself who are they as their
[36:13] inner self their true self who are they
[36:16] as a loving adult and what and and I
[36:19] teach them how to connect with their
[36:20] their higher source and then they go
[36:23] through the success of inner Bonnie with
[36:25] exercises there's questions there's
[36:28] discussion I work with a few people to
[36:30] show them what the process looks like
[36:33] and so yeah yeah they see it in real
[36:37] life they get a real-life experience and
[36:39] what so many people say even people who
[36:42] have been doing in Urbana for a long
[36:44] time is that there's nothing like
[36:46] getting a real life experience plus
[36:48] because I've been doing this for so long
[36:51] that they get the role modeling you know
[36:54] I'm very open about what I've been
[36:56] through and so they hear what I've been
[36:58] through and they hear what my life is
[37:00] like now and they see you know the
[37:03] amount of energy that I have and how
[37:06] easy it is for me to connect and they
[37:09] get inspired to you know to start to
[37:11] practice the process for themselves so
[37:14] many people that if people go to our
[37:16] website and they look under the
[37:18] testimonials for workshops so many
[37:21] people say
[37:22] I've been reading books I've been
[37:23] attending workshops I've had therapy for
[37:26] 20 years 30 years this is the first time
[37:29] I understand why I've been suffering and
[37:33] what to do about it
[37:36] and it's so beautiful you said about
[37:38] role modeling I feel it's
[37:41] underappreciated in our culture the
[37:43] value of a lived experience with someone
[37:46] who is you know a Mersenne is living
[37:49] what they're you know sharing with
[37:51] others yeah that's right and and I don't
[37:55] know about you but I've been to a lot of
[37:57] people and I'm all often disappointed
[37:59] and a lot of people say to me well I
[38:01] thought this person was gonna really be
[38:03] great but you know they're in their ego
[38:05] they're just trying to sell something
[38:07] they're not living what they're teaching
[38:08] and it's disappointing I've been doing
[38:12] this for so long and I've worked really
[38:16] hard to live what I teach and really it
[38:21] took me a long time before I felt ready
[38:24] to come out andand this is why see I
[38:27] hadn't I hadn't written a book in a long
[38:29] time sorry yeah yeah I hadn't written a
[38:32] book and that was one of the reasons why
[38:34] because I knew I needed to be in that
[38:38] place I needed to know that it works
[38:41] I needed to be living it in my own life
[38:44] before I could feel good about really
[38:47] putting it out there and now I mean I'm
[38:51] I'm blown away I am so grateful for my
[38:55] life at this point and and not only not
[39:00] only am I so grateful for the health and
[39:02] vitality I have but because I've been
[39:04] doing this I am able to manifest you
[39:09] know there's so much talk about how to
[39:11] manifest but people don't realize that
[39:14] they need to be in a high frequency they
[39:16] need to be loving themselves they need
[39:19] to be in connection with themselves and
[39:21] their guidance in order to manifest
[39:23] their dreams and so many people that I
[39:27] work with they don't even know what
[39:29] their dreams are they don't know what
[39:30] their passion is they don't know what
[39:32] their purpose is they don't know how to
[39:34] find it out
[39:35] they're unhappy in their jobs but they
[39:37] don't know what else to do we have a
[39:40] blueprint in our soul every single
[39:43] person has a blueprint for why they came
[39:46] to the planet for what they're here to
[39:48] offer for what would bring them joy to
[39:52] offer but that in herself isn't gonna
[39:55] tell them that blueprint until they feel
[39:58] loved until they know that there's a
[40:01] loving adult there who's going to take
[40:02] loving action on what they tell them and
[40:05] so as they learn and practice in our
[40:08] bonding and I seen this with thousands
[40:10] of people that I work with they get in
[40:12] touch with why they're on the planet
[40:14] they get in touch with what would really
[40:17] bring them joy to offer and that's very
[40:21] very exciting because that's why we're
[40:24] here we're here to evolve in our ability
[40:27] to love ourselves and to love others and
[40:30] we're here to offer our love in our own
[40:33] unique way
[40:34] we each have a lot of gifts inside that
[40:38] have been squashed down that have been
[40:40] judged that we don't know about through
[40:43] inner bonding we learn about these gifts
[40:45] we learn about why we're here and what
[40:48] we want to offer and when people tap
[40:50] into that it brings them enormous joy
[40:54] I'm very fortunate and that I learned
[40:56] many years ago about what I love to do
[40:59] obviously I love what I do
[41:01] and I'm always gonna do it I have no
[41:04] intention of retiring I can't even I
[41:06] can't even think about that because that
[41:09] would sound really boring oh I do I do
[41:15] and really I'm very very busy I work a
[41:19] lot but I love it I love it and so I
[41:24] have no desire to stop just so people
[41:27] know we're very grateful to Margaret for
[41:29] making the time for this webinar with us
[41:31] were you worked with her schedule and
[41:34] we're really glad that she could carve
[41:35] out time for this session with all of us
[41:37] ya know I'm happy to do it and I'm
[41:40] really looking forward to meeting
[41:42] everybody who's who's coming to the
[41:44] workshop and I you know I really
[41:45] encourage people who
[41:47] haven't been to one to to come to this
[41:50] workshop you will not regret it would be
[41:52] a very loving action for yourself to
[41:54] bring yourself to them its workshop and
[41:58] before we round wind-up do we have time
[42:01] for a short kind of inner reflection
[42:03] experience with you yeah okay
[42:07] so the first thing that people need to
[42:09] do is just take some deep breaths take
[42:13] some deep breaths and use your breath to
[42:18] get you out of your head and inside your
[42:21] body follow your breath as you go in and
[42:27] as you go in scan your body for any
[42:32] physical sensations any tightness and
[42:36] tension emptiness numbness nothingness
[42:40] whatever is in there is fine if you're
[42:44] feeling great that's fine too that's
[42:47] wonderful
[42:48] but tune into any physical sensations
[42:50] because emotions show up this physical
[42:54] sensation and breathe into them don't
[42:59] move away from them breathe into those
[43:02] feelings get present imagine that those
[43:06] feelings are an inner child and that
[43:11] inner child is letting you know that
[43:13] there's something to attend to even if
[43:18] there's just a little bit of tension or
[43:20] a little bit of numbness or emptiness or
[43:24] a little bit of anxiety just breathe
[43:26] into it and get present and have some
[43:30] compassion no judgement for the feeling
[43:34] I now take a moment to notice if there's
[43:41] something you're telling yourself right
[43:43] now some way you're treating yourself
[43:46] right now
[43:47] that might be causing a little bit of
[43:51] stress a little bit of a loner
[43:55] a little bit of emptiness just notice it
[43:59] without judgment no judgment just start
[44:05] to make a connection between how you're
[44:09] treating yourself what you're telling
[44:12] yourself and how you end up feeling
[44:16] inside just start to notice you'll even
[44:21] have to do anything about but just
[44:24] become aware and breathe that in okay so
[44:38] that's just a very brief introduction to
[44:45] step one and two of enter botany mm-hmm
[44:50] it's much more in depth when we go into
[44:53] it but that's just a very brief
[44:55] introduction of tuning in and noticing
[44:59] what's going on
[45:01] beautiful we're really looking forward
[45:04] to the workshop with you you'll find a
[45:06] link to the workshop in the chat box and
[45:09] in the comment section so please feel
[45:11] free to check that out learn a little
[45:14] more and clear up your calendar dates
[45:16] and thank you again Margaret for the
[45:19] time with us and for sharing so openly
[45:21] you're very welcome thank you Andrew in
[45:24] wishing everyone a thriving week ahead
[45:27] bye now am I
[45:33] you