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[0:02] welcome to impact the world the show for
[0:04] and about creatives change makers and
[0:07] entrepreneurs
[0:09] this is a conversation episode where a
[0:12] special guest shares with me what they
[0:14] are creating and the behind the scenes
[0:16] journey of their experience
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[0:20] [Applause]
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[0:24] hello welcome to impact the world where
[0:27] my guest today is danielle laporte
[0:31] danielle may be familiar to some of you
[0:33] as an author a speaker and an
[0:36] inspirational voice and i have seen
[0:39] danielle's work out there over the last
[0:41] decade or so
[0:42] in many different ways through her books
[0:44] through her writings and so it was
[0:47] really great to get to talk to her about
[0:50] not only some of the
[0:51] work that she has been doing over the
[0:53] last decade but also what she's doing
[0:55] now
[0:56] and how her heart centered membership
[0:58] and facilitation program
[1:00] are the evolution of her work and
[1:02] peppered in with all of that
[1:04] we have a few interesting conversation
[1:07] moments together about
[1:09] the world right now and what we're
[1:11] seeing in the energy of the world and
[1:13] the division and how to cope with it and
[1:16] what's coming up for each of us
[1:17] personally so
[1:19] it was a really lovely conversation and
[1:20] great to get to meet her in person via
[1:23] zoom you know what i mean
[1:25] and
[1:26] for anyone who wants to find out more
[1:28] about what danielle is doing as usual go
[1:31] to the show notes which are either
[1:33] underneath the video or the audio
[1:34] version uh however or wherever you're
[1:37] watching or receiving this
[1:39] show and you can visit
[1:41] danielleleport.com
[1:43] her website to find all things danielle
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[2:25] today
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[2:30] project it's all the same we're all
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[2:34] thank you for tuning in i hope you
[2:36] enjoyed today's conversation with
[2:38] danielle laporte
[2:40] [Music]
[2:45] danielle thank you so much for coming on
[2:47] to the show it's a real pleasure to get
[2:49] to meet you after possibly seeing you
[2:52] out there i guess maybe over the last
[2:54] decade um and and just seeing your work
[2:57] and seeing all the different things that
[2:58] you've been doing i've really enjoyed
[3:01] witnessing uh all of the different the
[3:04] different twists and turns that you've
[3:05] taken with your work so thank you for
[3:07] being here
[3:08] i'm happy to be here decade
[3:11] sounds so long
[3:13] i know right it was like
[3:15] original original gangster yeah i feel
[3:19] you know i've been working in in the
[3:21] field of self-growth and spirituality
[3:23] now for
[3:24] publicly since 2006. so i feel like i
[3:27] saw you i'm pretty sure it feels like
[3:30] it's been a while and i think one of the
[3:32] first things that i came across in your
[3:35] work was the desire map and
[3:39] and really what i loved about your
[3:40] intention with the desire map was
[3:43] you know the heart centered goal setting
[3:45] and bringing in
[3:47] feelings with goals because at the time
[3:49] we had a lot of i don't know
[3:52] manifest and you'll get this but not
[3:54] really much of the understanding around
[3:57] it or the underneath of it but what
[3:59] really struck me was when you came out
[4:00] with white hot truth
[4:02] which is a book that you published in
[4:03] 2017 and what i loved about that was you
[4:07] yourself said
[4:08] you know i've been a spiritual seeker
[4:11] i'm into all of these things and
[4:13] um i'm noticing a lot of spiritual
[4:16] bypassing
[4:17] judgment of the self that can come from
[4:20] a lot of the the tropes or the the
[4:22] things that we're being asked to follow
[4:24] and
[4:25] i had come from a personal development
[4:27] background in my own
[4:30] seeking and exploring and had randomly
[4:32] found myself in the deep spiritual world
[4:35] because i was channeling which was never
[4:37] my goal and it was very interesting to
[4:40] me to see that very bypassing you were
[4:42] speaking about
[4:43] happening in our field and not not from
[4:45] everyone but it was it was definitely
[4:48] there so i loved when i saw you come out
[4:50] with that book and i saw an interview
[4:52] you did at the time and i thought this
[4:53] is great because
[4:55] you were really just sharing from
[4:57] experience
[4:59] um and guiding uh through some of the
[5:01] minefield that can be out there so i
[5:04] just wanted to give you a shout out for
[5:05] that because that was a that was a
[5:07] really cool moment when i saw you doing
[5:08] that
[5:09] thanks still a minefield
[5:13] like anything right yeah it's the same
[5:16] lesson
[5:17] it's the same lesson like i think
[5:19] you know we
[5:21] deal with
[5:23] a cluster of the same lessons
[5:26] in one lifetime
[5:28] and
[5:30] you can let that
[5:31] possible fact totally bum you out
[5:35] or you can feel relieved
[5:37] because
[5:38] you just have these few things to deal
[5:40] with they're going to be repetitive
[5:43] and you're going to think i'm this again
[5:46] um but you're going you have the
[5:49] opportunity to like be thorough with it
[5:51] and really get it and move on
[5:54] and so that is still my
[5:57] you know
[5:59] self-helping
[6:01] as self-punishment
[6:03] is still something that i
[6:05] have to be with
[6:07] i don't want to use the word confront
[6:08] i'm so i'm not interested in confronting
[6:11] anything anymore
[6:12] um
[6:14] but it's still up i mean i have
[6:17] a bit of a catholic hangover still
[6:20] um i really just replaced catholicism
[6:23] for like new ageism so i just like i got
[6:25] rid of the ten commandments and i was
[6:27] like i'll do karma now
[6:30] and i can see how there's still like a
[6:33] lot of
[6:35] uh
[6:37] punishment
[6:38] dialogue
[6:40] in there and
[6:43] i'm getting over it
[6:44] yeah
[6:46] do
[6:47] you does it surprise you
[6:50] where you find yourself today having
[6:52] been a voice and an advocate and a
[6:55] creator
[6:56] for all of the different things that
[6:57] you've been because i know
[7:00] looking into some of your history i know
[7:02] you were often working in
[7:04] you had some executive jobs you were
[7:06] in many ways supports sometimes to
[7:09] people who were let's say out there
[7:12] but for you now to have moved into that
[7:15] role where you are the voice or the
[7:17] figurehead for
[7:18] what it is that you're doing which i
[7:20] know is is is its own movement and
[7:22] organization of course goes beyond you
[7:24] but does it surprise you that
[7:26] you ended up here or do you feel like
[7:28] this was a
[7:29] destiny path for you that was always
[7:31] going to emerge
[7:34] the latter
[7:35] yeah i felt like i
[7:38] i didn't know what form it was going to
[7:40] take but i wanted
[7:42] to say something
[7:43] and i knew that what i wanted to say had
[7:45] to do with goodness
[7:48] and
[7:49] unity i wouldn't have called it unity
[7:51] consciousness
[7:53] when i was like had my shoulder pads
[7:55] but
[7:57] um i would i wanted to do something it
[8:00] was i thought about
[8:03] for a while i was going to go into
[8:04] fashion design but i really wanted to
[8:06] rock that industry and do like kind of
[8:08] eco-ethical and i was going to do these
[8:10] nude fashion shows just to like make
[8:12] this statement you know and then i
[8:16] thought
[8:17] for a while my path was going to be film
[8:19] and i was really like compelled by like
[8:21] being a documentarian and
[8:24] um
[8:25] and then this all you know
[8:27] one lily pad to the next and
[8:30] here i am just writing for a long time i
[8:33] don't and i still don't identify as a
[8:34] writer
[8:36] i write
[8:37] but
[8:38] it's not
[8:40] that's not what's important
[8:42] what's important is like i'm a seeker i
[8:45] consider myself a seeker i'm on the path
[8:48] i learn some things
[8:50] i might be able to help you
[8:53] flatten your learning curve a little bit
[8:56] i have no interest anymore in giving
[8:59] advice
[9:02] um i have no interest in
[9:05] really in any kind of
[9:07] stealth loud activism it's not for me
[9:12] um
[9:14] i have interest in cleaning up the war
[9:16] within myself
[9:19] and
[9:22] being radiant with that
[9:25] yeah and if it works for you cool if not
[9:28] like that's okay too
[9:31] yeah
[9:33] it's interesting you i i pulled a an
[9:37] instagram post of yours from a few days
[9:38] ago that i really it touched me and i i
[9:41] wanted to share it in this interview and
[9:43] just what you described makes me think
[9:44] of it
[9:46] remember why you really truly totally
[9:48] love each other why you fell in love why
[9:51] you hired her why you love working
[9:53] together the times you have scooped each
[9:56] other up the deep laughs the emergency
[9:58] phone calls the road trips
[10:01] breathe into your heart and feel someone
[10:03] else's heart feel that that is real the
[10:06] rest is transient
[10:08] we are not our beliefs we are not what
[10:10] we do or do not choose to put into our
[10:12] bodies minds garages bank accounts
[10:15] we are souls blessed to bump into one
[10:18] another
[10:18] feel that focus on that because anything
[10:21] other than love is a total distraction
[10:24] that lets fear slip in and divide what's
[10:27] meant to be united love no matter what
[10:32] i mean that that would be relevant in
[10:33] any day but i think given the the a lot
[10:36] of the division energy that we've been
[10:38] seeing play out in the last six twelve
[10:40] months that that was very moving and i
[10:42] saw how many people were moved by that
[10:44] so
[10:47] isn't it interesting you said you don't
[10:49] identify as a writer
[10:51] and i often wonder if
[10:54] we're never going to be able to identify
[10:55] ourselves as anything i mean sometimes
[10:57] we identify other people as a thing but
[11:00] of course they're far more than that
[11:01] thing and they're a multi-dimensional
[11:02] being in their life so
[11:04] i i hear that from every creator i ever
[11:07] get to talk to i know that myself
[11:10] and i believe actually it's a gift when
[11:12] we stop identifying with certain things
[11:14] but it's interesting because to read
[11:15] that you go oh
[11:17] that that's a beautiful piece of writing
[11:19] or channeling however you however you
[11:22] call that in but it's beautiful
[11:24] thank you
[11:25] yeah that is
[11:27] from the just the the
[11:30] god the suffering of relationships right
[11:33] now i just
[11:34] you know i have my own
[11:36] tangles in the entanglements
[11:39] but it's just like every day like you
[11:42] know i have this i have a heart-centered
[11:44] membership community
[11:46] we meet every two weeks and the
[11:47] questions now it's just like
[11:50] it's just this percolation of
[11:53] polarization everybody wants to know
[11:55] like how do i navigate
[11:58] coping with people who
[12:00] did this and didn't do that and
[12:03] marriages are splitting up because of
[12:05] different
[12:06] medical choices
[12:08] and
[12:10] we are more divided than ever i i don't
[12:12] think anybody can argue with that
[12:14] um
[12:16] and my experience has been like
[12:19] listen i fell in love with my friends
[12:21] for a reason
[12:22] i stuck around for a reason
[12:25] i and i
[12:26] so i my heart knows that i also
[12:29] cognitively and spiritually no i am not
[12:32] my thoughts
[12:34] i'm not my thoughts this is basic
[12:36] consciousness right like
[12:38] and if i'm not my thoughts
[12:40] then i
[12:41] am definitely not my beliefs
[12:45] and if i'm not my thoughts and my
[12:46] beliefs and neither are you or neither
[12:48] the people that i've loved for decades
[12:50] decades decades and i'm just going to
[12:54] remember like i just love them and who
[12:56] knows what's true right now you just
[12:58] can't i mean the truth with a capital t
[13:01] ineffable unknowable any great mystic
[13:04] will tell you that you can't know it
[13:06] somebody can't give it to you they can
[13:07] hint but you still have to have this
[13:09] opening awareness experience yourself
[13:12] so
[13:13] we think that what's going on in pop
[13:15] culture or mainstream or being passed
[13:18] around by influencers or major networks
[13:21] that are owned by the same white guys
[13:22] who are you know controlling everything
[13:25] like that any of that is true and then
[13:28] you can go even further
[13:30] and take like an even more mystical
[13:34] buddhist cosmic christian even
[13:37] perspective that like this
[13:40] this that we're doing now
[13:42] having bodies having this experience
[13:44] this is the dream
[13:46] and when you close your eyes and you tap
[13:48] in
[13:49] and you meditate or you reflect that's
[13:51] what's real
[13:53] so i'm not even concerned
[13:56] anymore like
[13:57] well i'm concerned i take that back i
[13:59] have deep concerns
[14:01] um but i look at so-called truth
[14:06] in this
[14:08] dimension now it's just like passing
[14:10] clouds
[14:12] and
[14:13] [Music]
[14:14] just like feelings and just like
[14:15] emotions and all those truths are just
[14:17] based on feelings and emotions anyway
[14:19] which all come from the subconscious
[14:21] so
[14:24] back to
[14:25] when somebody says what do i do about
[14:27] arguing with my mother-in-law
[14:30] or my friend who wants to dump me
[14:32] because she's
[14:34] doesn't like my choices yeah
[14:37] or what do i do what do we do about the
[14:39] taliban
[14:43] um
[14:45] step one you feel the sorrow you don't
[14:47] reject it
[14:49] you even feel the rage you just feel it
[14:51] all you let it all in
[14:53] and
[14:54] step two
[14:56] you just
[14:59] look at it all within yourself
[15:01] because it's easy i can say i can
[15:06] talk about love i consider myself
[15:09] a loving person i know i'm a loving
[15:11] person i have to consider i am a loving
[15:13] person
[15:14] and
[15:16] i i want to hammer some people some days
[15:20] and i can get on that quickly
[15:23] but
[15:24] even though that's just a seed frequency
[15:27] in me
[15:28] it's just a seed it's small it's still
[15:31] within me
[15:33] now with other people it's a daily
[15:36] diatribe it's being a member of the
[15:38] taliban
[15:40] it's mandating ridiculousness it's
[15:42] totalitarianism but i have seeds of to
[15:45] telling totalitarianism within myself
[15:49] so i got to work on that
[15:52] yeah well it's interesting how we're all
[15:55] we're all seeded by everything that's
[15:57] out here and that we were born into it's
[15:59] like sure we're a unique soul but we
[16:01] were also born into a certain
[16:04] human construct at a certain time on
[16:07] earth and you know we that becomes our
[16:09] clothing too so i i i so agree with you
[16:13] um
[16:14] and you'll hear many well you'll hear
[16:16] different things from different people
[16:17] there are some people who are going well
[16:18] i just i'm going to clean up inside
[16:20] myself and that's how i'm contributing
[16:22] and then there are other people who are
[16:23] out there being activists and it kind of
[16:25] just goes back to what you
[16:27] what you said about you know the truth
[16:29] is relative depending on
[16:32] someone's experience someone's belief
[16:34] there are there are many truths
[16:35] colliding at the moment but it's
[16:36] interesting what you said about your
[16:38] membership group
[16:39] um
[16:40] my membership community which we've had
[16:42] for eight years the portal
[16:44] the intensity of the questions
[16:46] yes and the
[16:50] i'll say the weight of the questions and
[16:52] the heaviness and the heartbreak and the
[16:55] sorrow in the questions um or the
[16:57] anguish it has has been really higher
[17:01] than we've ever seen in eight years in
[17:03] the last year or so
[17:04] um
[17:05] so it's coming
[17:07] yeah
[17:09] yeah i uh i i i channel and and they
[17:13] have said to me for many many years that
[17:15] you know you have this is a period of
[17:17] time and it's going to continue so you
[17:19] have to fortify yourself and figure out
[17:22] how to
[17:23] balance yourself while we while we go
[17:25] through it
[17:26] how do you balance yourself i mean it's
[17:28] an obvious question but i think it's a
[17:30] question that at the moment many people
[17:33] are looking to up their balance game
[17:35] like are there any practices you have or
[17:38] are there certain things you go to
[17:40] well
[17:42] there's a there's a
[17:44] precursor answer to that which is
[17:48] you know a few years ago i went through
[17:49] a really dark night
[17:52] and
[17:53] i was awake enough at the time i think
[17:55] this will be of service somehow someday
[17:58] couldn't see getting to the other side
[18:00] but i knew
[18:00] and now i can see
[18:02] every challenge every challenge
[18:05] has felt like now in retrospect like
[18:07] boot camp for this
[18:10] and so i'm more grateful than ever
[18:13] first challenges in the past and it also
[18:16] helps me be
[18:18] really present like i'm grateful i went
[18:20] through that i'm more resilient i'm more
[18:23] compassionate i'm more resourced
[18:26] and it allows me to see that
[18:29] it really is all divine there really is
[18:32] a bigger plan
[18:34] suffering comes with great purpose
[18:36] we can transmute all of it we don't want
[18:39] you know i don't want unnecessary
[18:41] suffering but whatever my soul doles out
[18:44] i'm gonna try and
[18:46] tango with it you know
[18:47] and then in present day because things
[18:50] are going good now
[18:52] um
[18:54] i have to meditate
[18:56] so like if i ever wanted to just like
[18:59] point at something people like what i'm
[19:00] just like sister brother
[19:02] mister
[19:03] you gotta meditate
[19:06] and that's all like
[19:09] it's there's it's mental hygiene
[19:13] it's spiritual connection
[19:15] i mean we could get into the
[19:17] the nuances of that right like
[19:19] lots of people sitting down with their
[19:21] apps saying that they're meditating
[19:25] okay it's good to pause it's good to
[19:27] watch your breath
[19:29] there's also just like opening your
[19:31] heart up to a divine connection
[19:34] which is
[19:35] what i'm
[19:36] i'm down for these days so i meditate
[19:39] every day
[19:40] i'm in a practice currently where i've
[19:42] decided to stick with the same
[19:44] meditation
[19:45] until i decide to not stick with it i'd
[19:48] see myself this is part of my
[19:51] my uh striving my spiritual striving
[19:55] is i'm just like i'm going to do that
[19:57] meditation and that meditation because
[19:58] more meditations is better you know i
[20:00] went through a whole period of longer is
[20:02] better
[20:02] and it was like more variety is better
[20:05] and now i'm just sitting
[20:07] and some days i dial it in and some days
[20:10] i feel
[20:11] the infinite
[20:13] but i'm going to keep going you know and
[20:17] i have to be in nature i
[20:20] you know at the beginning of
[20:23] this world health situation
[20:26] i felt
[20:29] obsessed with my mortality
[20:32] and then that turned into this
[20:35] compulsion without it being
[20:38] you know like a really healthy
[20:39] compulsion
[20:40] to simplify so it's like in the last
[20:43] year
[20:44] um well phase one was i turned to god
[20:47] and said
[20:49] take my desires i'm going to give you my
[20:51] three big desires like
[20:53] um i want to live
[20:55] and i want to like have a career and i
[20:59] want to be partnered with an awesome
[21:01] person and just take them all
[21:04] take it
[21:05] it was long it was it was arduous and uh
[21:09] but i really let go
[21:10] and then it all came back
[21:13] and i decided
[21:15] i want to live
[21:17] in fact i want to live more than ever
[21:19] like
[21:20] any hangover i had about like i want off
[21:22] this planet not in a suicidal way but
[21:25] like
[21:26] please get me out of babylon
[21:28] statement common statement yeah right i
[21:31] want to go back to my star home you know
[21:33] that's gone
[21:35] it was gone and that letting go like i'm
[21:37] good to die i don't want to leave my son
[21:39] but i'm not afraid and i let that go as
[21:42] like if i'm gonna die because of this
[21:45] what
[21:46] okay
[21:47] and then i decided no i'm here i am here
[21:49] for this
[21:51] lee
[21:52] and
[21:53] then
[21:53] career i was like i can
[21:56] give up all my stuff
[21:58] and
[21:59] i don't know i've been a waitress before
[22:01] i can figure it out
[22:02] and then
[22:04] partner i'm good my life is so full of
[22:07] love
[22:08] i can just if
[22:10] i can just live like an urban nun i'm so
[22:13] down
[22:14] and
[22:16] over a period of time like it all the
[22:17] cat came back
[22:19] and
[22:20] um
[22:21] i decided why would i not do what i do
[22:23] for a living
[22:24] i'm designed to do this be silly not to
[22:28] and
[22:29] um
[22:30] and then i decided yeah i'm i'm open to
[22:35] an awesome dude
[22:37] and the first date i went on ended up
[22:39] being my life partner
[22:41] so like
[22:42] but but what shifted and all of that was
[22:45] the striving around it and
[22:49] i simplified so this is a longer answer
[22:52] to i meditate every day and i super
[22:54] simplified my life i got rid of half of
[22:56] my
[22:57] things
[22:59] the sofa and the shoes and most of it
[23:03] and i moved to be by the ocean in a
[23:06] little apartment with my kid and
[23:09] simplified my business
[23:10] and
[23:11] um
[23:14] and i get my sleep
[23:16] and i'm also going out of my way
[23:20] to
[23:20] [Music]
[23:21] listen to people
[23:24] out of my way these days like just
[23:27] wow tell me
[23:29] how you felt when that happened like
[23:31] what's your experience why do you hate
[23:34] those people
[23:35] why do you disagree with me oh that's
[23:37] interesting i'm just fascinated by
[23:40] everybody's so-called side right now
[23:43] yeah
[23:45] thank you
[23:47] it's funny you you talk about the
[23:49] simplicity and i i wrote something that
[23:51] you had said and i i it struck me it's
[23:54] beautifully written but it conveys so
[23:56] much
[23:57] simplifying is the rapture that comes
[24:00] after the complexity you wish you'd
[24:03] avoided yeah
[24:05] and i thought i can't remember where i
[24:07] found that it's either on your website
[24:08] or somewhere but
[24:10] that sentence just yeah simplifying is
[24:12] the rapture that comes after the
[24:14] complexity you wish you'd avoided yeah
[24:17] like i feel like a fool with great
[24:20] self-compassion i feel like a fool
[24:23] for wanting and going after
[24:26] most of what i went after
[24:28] it's just
[24:31] but do you not think you needed to you
[24:32] see the way i i i guess the way i see it
[24:36] is i i think sometimes we have to go
[24:38] into that experience to either be done
[24:40] with it to let it go or because then we
[24:42] can see the next step at least that's
[24:43] been my perspective or
[24:45] is it different for you
[24:48] well it just doesn't feel very
[24:49] efficiently right
[24:52] it's
[24:53] no i i get that and i feel
[25:00] i really understand the power in being
[25:03] prodigal
[25:05] like you have to have left i'm just
[25:07] echoing what you're saying like
[25:09] it's one like let's just go but i'll
[25:12] just give you the cliff's notes on the
[25:13] prodigal right for anybody who hasn't
[25:14] heard it like the beauty of the story of
[25:16] the prodigal son so you know the father
[25:19] has many sons and one leaves and goes
[25:21] and lives with pigs and squanders his
[25:23] life and is you know full of vices and
[25:26] the other son you know one of the sons
[25:28] stays and is very loyal and toils on the
[25:30] farm and the the the vice-full sun comes
[25:35] back
[25:36] and the father is showing him more favor
[25:38] and affection than the son who stayed
[25:41] and the son whose state is quite
[25:42] resentful and says hey
[25:44] i've been here all this time and you're
[25:46] you're loving him more and the father
[25:48] says but yeah to to to depart and come
[25:51] back
[25:53] takes great character
[25:55] it's like this to convert
[25:58] to go in the dark and then come back and
[26:00] like she's like so
[26:02] i get that and i've been doing i've been
[26:04] doing some more um
[26:07] like real research into vices and
[26:09] virtues and just classical teachings
[26:11] around that it's a lot it's it's really
[26:13] what a heart-centered life is about
[26:15] committing to that frequency of virtue
[26:18] and
[26:20] the conclusion is that
[26:22] a vice is a misused virtue
[26:27] and
[26:29] i'm just i'm just writing about this now
[26:31] my observation with the classic villain
[26:34] story is like all villains are in grief
[26:38] so like you look at darth vader
[26:41] he's really just a heartbroken jedi so
[26:44] he was all for love
[26:46] when he was anakin you know
[26:48] and then lost his love
[26:50] and then just turned that force
[26:53] into
[26:54] villain ray it's fascinating
[26:56] so
[26:57] sorry i just went down a rabbit hole
[26:59] there where were you
[27:00] i am a big star wars fan from childhood
[27:03] and b i read a very interesting article
[27:06] a few years ago about dictators in the
[27:08] world and
[27:10] how the
[27:11] tormented or abusive childhoods that
[27:14] that literally like 95 percent of them
[27:16] had had
[27:17] had contributed to their ability to then
[27:20] inflict
[27:22] pain and suffering knowingly on large
[27:25] groups of people so
[27:28] yeah
[27:30] that's i mean
[27:32] there's a whole other conversation well
[27:34] i'll tell you what i'm interested in in
[27:36] villanry and dictatorship which is
[27:39] really alive and well
[27:42] and
[27:44] i see how leaders have you know platform
[27:46] themselves on virtues and they're
[27:49] misusing them and it's turning into vice
[27:52] but also i'm very interested in
[27:57] the collective shadow
[28:00] and
[28:01] if everyone is playing a role in our
[28:04] awakening
[28:05] that means everybody
[28:07] everybody everybody even the dark guys
[28:10] are involved in the awakening
[28:13] and i wonder if a soul
[28:16] takes on that role
[28:18] to really take the hit
[28:20] like
[28:22] i so and so i'm going to incarnate and
[28:24] do the dirty work that needs to be done
[28:27] to show you all the shadow
[28:30] that exists within you
[28:32] i don't know i don't know this this is
[28:34] stuff i think about when i'm walking you
[28:36] know i go for my walks on the seawall
[28:38] what do you think
[28:41] a couple of different things like i have
[28:43] my own perspective but whenever i
[28:44] channel my guides it's always
[28:46] interesting because of course they are
[28:48] not coming from a human perspective
[28:50] they're coming from up here and from
[28:52] their perspective they will say
[28:54] that uh you know what we inc
[28:57] one thing they will say a lot which
[28:58] always makes sense to me is that we are
[29:01] tiny ants
[29:03] in the scheme of our position as human
[29:05] beings our time on earth in each
[29:07] incarnation and the progression of
[29:10] what's happening here on the planet and
[29:12] so
[29:13] we are compelled to get very emotionally
[29:16] psychologically and physically invested
[29:19] in everything that's going on here but
[29:21] they kind of just see it a little bit
[29:23] like the way you see lights from a plane
[29:24] when you're flying at night over a city
[29:27] they say there is a there is a jigsaw
[29:29] taking place and it's constantly moving
[29:32] and they
[29:33] they talk about um
[29:35] catalysts for change and how we each
[29:37] come back here
[29:38] and embody and take on different roles
[29:41] that will both serve our soul
[29:43] development and
[29:45] serve the map of what's going on at that
[29:47] time so for sure you know you can look
[29:49] at
[29:50] some of the you could say agitators on
[29:52] our planet uh culturally or collectively
[29:55] and they are playing out a role that we
[29:58] are also playing back
[30:00] because we are then in relationship to
[30:02] them it's the same as the empath
[30:04] narcissist dynamic the narcissist isn't
[30:07] the evil person that you might want to
[30:10] call them on your journey of healing as
[30:12] the one who played the empath in that
[30:14] dynamic but actually you're equally
[30:16] attracted to each other you're equally
[30:18] wounded in different ways
[30:19] and the trick is to go well can we
[30:22] can we come out of this and learn why i
[30:25] allowed myself to go into that dynamic
[30:27] and why it was unhealthy for me and how
[30:30] i will change my behavior so that i
[30:32] don't end up in that again and
[30:34] i think the big question for everyone
[30:36] certainly people i speak to right now is
[30:39] what we're seeing moving across the
[30:41] world as a shadow is it something
[30:43] we will
[30:45] co-create agree to
[30:47] allow is it something we should resist
[30:51] and it's very interesting because
[30:52] everyone's very different on how they
[30:54] feel about it how they act around it all
[30:56] of us
[30:57] so i think the answer is both
[31:02] someday i'm going to write a book called
[31:03] the answer is both but
[31:06] this is my experience or perspective
[31:08] it's an emerging experience like
[31:12] i'm gonna go i gotta go with what's
[31:14] happening
[31:15] why resist what's happening
[31:19] and at the same time to be
[31:23] a stand for if you want although that
[31:25] sounds a bit oppositional but like i am
[31:28] for the light
[31:30] like i s look it all comes from the
[31:32] light
[31:33] in in my view it all comes from the
[31:36] light the shadow comes from the light
[31:37] the darkness comes from light like we
[31:39] all come from the same source and the
[31:41] source is love so i'm going to continue
[31:44] to like
[31:45] turn my consciousness
[31:47] up and open and back in my thoughts and
[31:49] all of that my work to light
[31:52] to love to group
[31:55] love to group determination
[32:01] so
[32:02] it looks like that choice is in
[32:04] opposition to the darkness
[32:06] it's just large enough one would hope
[32:09] large enough to like hold the darkness
[32:13] so it's like hey darkness i know we're
[32:15] from the same mother
[32:17] i also know what's right
[32:20] so we protect children and we protect
[32:23] the the resources of the body of mother
[32:26] earth
[32:27] and we are a stand to embody goodness
[32:30] and truth and compassion we all come
[32:34] from that
[32:37] that's where i'm at that's where i'm at
[32:39] today totally but it but it's
[32:41] interesting isn't it because the the
[32:43] spell of fear that can overcome any of
[32:46] us
[32:47] i think can
[32:48] steer us away from having such an
[32:50] encompassing or heart-centered approach
[32:53] to people to the world
[32:55] um and and it's interesting to watch how
[32:59] uh a lot of the judgment
[33:02] that
[33:03] i've seen flying around
[33:05] lately
[33:07] it
[33:08] it rarely comes from heart i mean if
[33:11] someone is giving you guidance saying oh
[33:14] you you need to protect that child
[33:16] they're not usually
[33:18] harsh or
[33:20] they might be firm
[33:22] but what i'm witnessing and seeing and i
[33:24] think what i'm hearing that many people
[33:26] are alarmed by
[33:28] is how the
[33:30] if you like the the driver of fear or
[33:33] anxiety or an activated nervous system
[33:36] because of everything that's going on
[33:37] is is leading to more
[33:40] conflict
[33:41] push against division
[33:44] that's kind of something that i'm just
[33:47] sitting with
[33:48] but
[33:49] people are scared of
[33:52] i think that one thing that that i that
[33:55] i'm surprised by is i i think there is a
[33:58] total fear of death that that we have as
[34:00] a culture
[34:02] that has driven so much of the hysteria
[34:05] in the last 18 months
[34:07] and i'm not talking about not having
[34:08] compassion for people who are dying from
[34:11] anything whether it's a specific health
[34:13] thing that we've been dealing with or or
[34:15] anything
[34:17] but for me a fundamental truth is we are
[34:19] going to die and we might die when we're
[34:22] 90 if we live a long life and we might
[34:23] die when we're seven we don't know
[34:26] and and i think because there is a an
[34:28] amnesia about that culturally
[34:31] there is a hysteria that
[34:33] from my perspective has often been blown
[34:36] out of proportion and then people are
[34:38] acting
[34:39] from that place and i'm not saying
[34:42] they can't make the choices they're
[34:44] making but there's there's a lack of um
[34:48] critical thinking or allowing for
[34:50] different sides to be considered
[34:53] so it goes back to what we talked about
[34:55] with
[34:56] totalitarianism authoritarianism and
[34:58] seeing
[34:59] that oh this is the dimension that
[35:02] culturally and collectively we're being
[35:04] asked to
[35:05] move towards
[35:06] but what i'll also say danielle it goes
[35:08] back to what you said a moment ago
[35:10] i've never felt more
[35:13] aligned purposeful or awake at this
[35:15] moment in my life than i ever have
[35:18] and i can say that with full authority
[35:20] and if you'd have said to me that will
[35:22] coincide with a time in the world when
[35:24] the world looks like this if you'd have
[35:25] said that to me 15 years ago i'd have
[35:26] gone well how what do you mean they're
[35:29] so those are two completely discordant
[35:31] things so i also totally hear what you
[35:33] were saying about
[35:35] does the shadow wake us up you know we
[35:38] all know that awakening is is not pretty
[35:40] unicorns rainbows and butterflies for
[35:42] most people it can be for about a few
[35:45] days or weeks and then often you're
[35:47] plunged
[35:48] you're plunged into the furnaces to burn
[35:50] all the things away that you didn't know
[35:51] you were going to have to burn away
[35:54] the furnace i
[35:56] am so with you it's the fear of death
[36:00] yeah
[36:03] and it's interesting to me that we're
[36:04] willing to because of our fear of death
[36:08] surrender our ability to live
[36:10] because that's the other thing i'm kind
[36:11] of witnessing it's like oh wow peop
[36:14] people and we as a culture are
[36:17] willing to
[36:18] diminish
[36:20] certain aspects of the way we live
[36:21] certain fundamental things that are
[36:23] really important to us
[36:25] in order to protect ourselves from that
[36:28] so for how long and in what way and
[36:30] where it will all go we remains to be
[36:32] seen but
[36:34] uh i think one thing you said earlier
[36:36] that i know many many people
[36:39] who gather around the work i put out
[36:42] there
[36:43] we all know so well that sentence i
[36:45] don't want to be here wrong planet wrong
[36:47] life surely this isn't the incarnation
[36:50] i i also
[36:51] feel
[36:53] even as we're talking about what we're
[36:54] talking i've never felt more committed
[36:56] to being here even with everything
[36:58] that's going on that's potentially
[37:00] more troubling heartbreaking or
[37:02] mystifying than
[37:04] myself years ago could have ever handled
[37:07] like could have ever been able to to
[37:09] kind of be with and
[37:10] what's your
[37:12] relationship to fear right now
[37:18] it's a good question what's my
[37:20] relationship to fear right now
[37:26] i can't answer that from a mental place
[37:29] but what i i got an image of the tarot
[37:32] card the fool and and i heard laughter
[37:35] there's a part of there's something
[37:38] about fear for me right now
[37:42] interestingly that seems i won't say
[37:44] laughable because fear can be a very
[37:46] destructive force for all of us but this
[37:50] i don't believe it the way i used to
[37:53] believe it i think that's possibly where
[37:55] this is coming from where this in this
[37:56] moment
[37:58] i i don't take fear seriously
[38:01] as much as i used to
[38:06] maybe that's where i'm sitting today i
[38:08] don't know
[38:09] cause it can all change of course but
[38:11] um yeah i don't know if that answers the
[38:13] question
[38:14] yeah brilliant yeah how about you
[38:19] i've been experiencing a lot of fear
[38:21] and it's been
[38:24] unsettling because you know fear sucks
[38:26] but
[38:27] it's
[38:28] this is what i learned
[38:30] is
[38:32] you take a step towards beauty and chaos
[38:34] is going to come up you take a step
[38:36] towards joy and sorrow is going to come
[38:38] up you take a step towards life
[38:41] and love
[38:42] and fear is going to come up so it's
[38:44] sort of thrown me
[38:46] it's it's been like being in a washing
[38:47] machine
[38:49] but i finally figured it out
[38:52] like
[38:52] [Laughter]
[38:54] so now
[38:56] now that i can see that
[38:58] phenomenon
[39:00] really in my life and also i was i came
[39:03] across
[39:04] some teachings from pemacho drone who
[39:06] you know i love her work and she was
[39:08] talking about you know in the early days
[39:10] when she was really committing to
[39:11] buddhism
[39:12] and she was gonna give it as a nun
[39:16] she started experiencing all of this
[39:19] fear
[39:20] and she said to her i think the llama
[39:23] who became her root teacher just like
[39:25] i'm scared all the time he's like
[39:27] welcome to the work
[39:29] and you know when you you move down the
[39:31] road and the fear dissolves and you can
[39:34] laugh at it hopefully
[39:36] um and then it might come back because
[39:38] like i might come back life is in a new
[39:40] way in a new form yeah
[39:43] and i'm i'm just
[39:46] i don't want to reject it
[39:48] i know better now to reject you know to
[39:50] not reject things
[39:51] um
[39:53] but i want to be
[39:55] courageous and
[39:57] i know that i mean we all know many of
[40:00] us know the definition
[40:02] of courage it's you know french latin
[40:04] could from the heart
[40:06] but i really am getting that now like
[40:08] courage is fortitude of the heart so you
[40:11] just keep loving just like you keep
[40:12] loving your partner or your kid
[40:14] or a parent that you have a great
[40:16] relationship with like you just keep
[40:18] loving so i'm just gonna
[40:20] do that
[40:21] yeah
[40:23] beautiful
[40:25] well
[40:26] to talk about work for a second if we
[40:28] can because you brought up your you know
[40:30] your heart centered
[40:31] your membership earlier one thing i
[40:34] didn't know that you've been doing um
[40:36] which i was really um intrigued to ask
[40:39] you about
[40:40] you have been
[40:42] working with your heart centered
[40:44] facilitate facilitators
[40:46] you've been you've created a program for
[40:49] heart-centered facilitation and
[40:52] i'm always impressed by anyone who's
[40:54] going to
[40:56] take on that kind of endeavor just
[40:58] because it's something i i know would
[41:00] have many different complexities to it
[41:02] but i wondered what has been
[41:05] perhaps the gift and the challenge of
[41:07] embarking upon
[41:09] co-creating something like that with
[41:10] these people um
[41:13] uh
[41:15] mostly gifts
[41:17] so it started out with
[41:19] i wrote a book called the desire map
[41:23] i started getting requests people saying
[41:25] hey could i teach that chapter in a
[41:26] workshop i was like no not yet i'm not
[41:29] ready
[41:30] and i waited for the request to kind of
[41:32] pile up
[41:34] then we turned it into a teachable thing
[41:37] and i decided to
[41:40] the way i put is like i was going to
[41:41] choose my headache in terms of the
[41:43] business model that i was either going
[41:45] to certify people
[41:48] in which you know they have to go
[41:49] through all their skill testing
[41:50] questions and i would have to deem them
[41:52] good enough you pass you get to be a
[41:55] facilitator
[41:56] um
[41:58] i didn't want to do that because i don't
[42:00] i didn't want to reject people
[42:02] and or my other headache was going to be
[42:05] i'm just going to open it up to
[42:06] everybody anybody can become buy the
[42:09] license become a facilitator
[42:11] and we'll see if there's like complaints
[42:12] if there's any kooky pants facilitators
[42:15] out in the world of people say arrest
[42:17] that
[42:19] and that never happened there's been
[42:21] like hundreds 900 000 workshops that
[42:24] have happened like
[42:25] i think
[42:26] less than a handful
[42:28] of public people said she's not a good
[42:31] facilitator
[42:32] um and then
[42:34] the the guiding question with desire map
[42:37] it was all about getting clear on how
[42:38] you want to feel
[42:40] and so the question was
[42:43] how do i want to feel
[42:44] and now where i'm what i've evolved
[42:48] to with my work and perspective is like
[42:50] you take all that feeling which
[42:53] we now know i'm not my feelings my
[42:55] feelings come from my subconscious
[42:57] highly programmed highly beautiful
[42:59] magnificent glorious part of being human
[43:02] the question becomes what do i want to
[43:04] embody
[43:07] because
[43:08] you can't
[43:13] base your success on how you feel
[43:16] you're never gonna feel successful so
[43:19] it's like i can have a bad day and still
[43:21] give someone some happiness i can be in
[43:23] the
[43:24] in the in hell and still have a
[43:27] purposeful meaningful life which is the
[43:29] point
[43:30] so
[43:32] my
[43:34] and this is a great for me a great part
[43:36] of like the business story one thing i
[43:38] learned long time ago is like
[43:41] crush your gimmicks
[43:42] don't stay hooked onto what everybody
[43:44] wants from you
[43:46] and have the courage to evolve in public
[43:50] so i just told on my you know big day
[43:52] told all my desire about facilitators
[43:55] it's changing
[43:55] [Laughter]
[43:57] i believe something different now it's
[44:00] bigger it's more it's deeper it's higher
[44:02] it's virtuous
[44:03] and
[44:04] you can come with or you can peace out
[44:07] but we're creating new content we're
[44:09] going to train you to be a
[44:10] heart-centered facilitator
[44:12] so
[44:12] what i also know about business is you
[44:14] collaborate with people who are way
[44:15] smarter than you
[44:17] and so i brought in like four integral
[44:20] master level certified coaches
[44:24] people who knew what they were talking
[44:25] about in terms of pedagogy
[44:28] and then
[44:30] we took the the most seasoned
[44:32] sophisticated facilitators we had
[44:35] came forward and we created this
[44:36] beautiful thing
[44:39] so it's these practices that are mostly
[44:42] tools for resilience
[44:44] and i'm most excited about
[44:47] giving people whether you're a coach or
[44:49] yoga teacher or guidance camps or
[44:50] whatever
[44:52] these tools where you can help people
[44:55] hold polarization
[44:59] and
[45:00] [Music]
[45:01] if i can help with that i'm good
[45:05] well because that's one of the most
[45:07] needed things right now yeah that's it
[45:11] that's it uh
[45:13] you know like our holding polarization
[45:15] exercise is
[45:17] not about
[45:18] helping you figure out how right you are
[45:23] it's about you just getting a little bit
[45:24] softer with your opinions yeah
[45:28] that's it
[45:29] yeah
[45:30] and then hopefully everybody cries and
[45:32] enjoys your workshop or your coaching
[45:34] call or whatever it is
[45:36] fantastic fantastic
[45:39] um
[45:41] interesting time in the world as we know
[45:44] right now um and creating is is kind of
[45:48] a
[45:49] i've seen both i've seen some people
[45:51] crumble during this time around creating
[45:54] in the world and just going very inward
[45:56] and
[45:56] letting themselves
[45:58] be
[45:59] going through a metamorphosis and i've
[46:00] seen other people really lit up and kind
[46:02] of
[46:03] you know running like a rocket out there
[46:06] into the world you you
[46:08] appear to be for me and perhaps for
[46:12] other people who know your public work
[46:14] you appear to be a fairly steady creator
[46:17] or at least
[46:18] your creations are fairly steadily put
[46:20] out there into the world by you and your
[46:22] team
[46:23] is that the case for you is is
[46:25] creativity something that
[46:27] runs through your life or do you
[46:29] have seasons in the same way that you
[46:31] evolve a lot and change a lot with with
[46:33] your what you're doing
[46:36] no seasons i just make
[46:39] yeah now
[46:40] i also respect my ebb and flow
[46:44] but i'm always making so my ab might be
[46:48] oh i just want to write right now my
[46:51] flow might be
[46:52] i want to produce
[46:54] 12 podcasts this week
[46:56] um
[46:58] but i never
[46:59] i always have something to say because
[47:01] i'm always willing to be honest
[47:05] with
[47:06] what i found
[47:09] and
[47:12] yeah
[47:13] and what else am i going to do
[47:16] i mean i want to be
[47:20] useful
[47:21] i get it i get it no that that's great
[47:24] and your podcast how
[47:26] how have you found that because i you
[47:28] know i think podcasts give a
[47:31] a space for a potentially intimate or
[47:33] enlightening conversation or informative
[47:35] conversation how have you found
[47:38] you know having a podcast and the
[47:39] conversations that you have with people
[47:42] i don't have conversations with people
[47:43] it's a one-woman show very good and
[47:46] my podcast is a great example of my
[47:48] creative style and
[47:51] rhythm and lack of rhythm so
[47:54] i decided
[47:55] i
[47:56] you know i always want to create in an
[47:58] easy way and even just the thought of
[48:00] scheduling with people and
[48:03] you know i just like no i just want ease
[48:06] i want to be able to
[48:08] record something anytime i feel moved to
[48:11] so
[48:11] i record my podcast on my phone
[48:14] sitting in my living room on the floor
[48:17] i had all this gear and this big
[48:20] microphone and i i put all this sponge
[48:23] up in my closet and i'm just like
[48:25] this is so restrictive
[48:27] so i don't want to be restrictive
[48:29] restricted
[48:31] um
[48:32] so i do it my i just i just i'm
[48:35] sermonizing basically
[48:37] and i also like the intimacy of that
[48:40] and i also think
[48:43] you know
[48:45] sometimes i can be
[48:46] so struck by my own opinions
[48:50] that
[48:52] i don't know if i could
[48:54] i mean i can be gracious of course but i
[48:56] just want to say what i want to say
[48:59] and i'm i'm deeply interested like we
[49:02] could flip it right now and i could
[49:04] talk to you for another hour about your
[49:06] journey
[49:08] but i feel mostly like oh my gosh i just
[49:11] learned this thing about suffering
[49:12] yesterday i need to talk about it now
[49:15] yeah
[49:15] and then i put my podcast out and
[49:18] you know in terms of numbers and and all
[49:21] that did
[49:22] did awesome
[49:23] and then i just didn't feel like doing
[49:24] it for a while and then i wanted to go
[49:27] write a book and i wanted to
[49:29] and then i fell in love with somebody
[49:31] and i just like oh i'm just going to go
[49:32] to the beach
[49:34] and i'm reorganizing my life so
[49:37] basically
[49:38] i can just podcast all the time
[49:41] i think
[49:42] many many people listening and watching
[49:44] just breathed a huge sigh of relief and
[49:46] went what do you mean i could just sit
[49:48] there on my phone and not you know
[49:50] because i you know so many people i know
[49:53] um who are either just beginning in in
[49:55] the work they do in the world that
[49:57] involves broadcasting or they've been
[49:59] doing it a while but they think i've got
[50:00] to figure out this equipment it is it's
[50:02] a minefield and no you don't have to you
[50:04] can just you don't have to your way you
[50:07] can publish as much as you want i mean
[50:09] this is not a great way to run a
[50:11] business
[50:13] but i don't care
[50:14] it's works for me and i am my
[50:17] professional journey is always about
[50:20] freedom and consistency and like that
[50:22] dance
[50:24] and
[50:28] it can be messy but i keep it deep
[50:31] you can rely on me for depth
[50:34] maybe not every monday
[50:37] but i will show up and be real when i
[50:40] show up
[50:41] yeah
[50:42] and you you said you have two live calls
[50:44] a month in your heart centered
[50:46] membership yeah and i love those those
[50:49] this is another like great creative
[50:51] learning like
[50:52] i love being surprised by how much i
[50:55] enjoy something
[50:57] you know i just thought i didn't know
[50:58] what the calls were going to be like the
[51:00] types of questions i you know this is
[51:02] part of my need for freedom
[51:05] which we all know is an illusion i am
[51:06] free i just tell myself a story that if
[51:10] it's you know if if it's on the calendar
[51:12] i'm not free um
[51:14] and i am so
[51:17] nourished by the engagement with
[51:19] everybody and it helps me stay in touch
[51:22] with what's really happening in the
[51:24] world
[51:25] the news can suck it
[51:28] but when you get together with a few
[51:30] hundred women every other week
[51:32] and they're
[51:33] in agony
[51:35] and in glory and they're wise
[51:38] they are wise and they are committed
[51:41] and they are
[51:43] friendly and pissed off and all of it
[51:46] you know what's going on in the world
[51:49] um
[51:51] yes i love them i love them i might
[51:54] do more of it
[51:55] beautiful how long have you done that
[51:56] for the membership it's been a year and
[51:58] a half and
[52:00] that
[52:01] we we could talk a lot about memberships
[52:04] like
[52:04] i started that membership
[52:07] on the on
[52:08] a very traditional foot
[52:11] of
[52:13] we're gonna have a theme and you can
[52:15] only sign up four times a year and you
[52:18] create this kind of demand and then you
[52:20] supply it i'm just like oh god i don't
[52:22] like this this has never felt right to
[52:25] me why i'm committed to helping people
[52:27] alleviate their suffering why would we
[52:29] not set this up so someone can join any
[52:32] day they want absolutely and forget the
[52:35] facade of like there's a waiting list
[52:38] there's no waiting list everybody just
[52:40] getting their together before they
[52:42] can launch it again like you know um
[52:45] they're just building up this
[52:48] it's an illusion it's all an illusion
[52:51] so
[52:52] um sorry if that's how you run your
[52:54] business sorry because i know you
[52:55] haven't mentioned it it's funny i for i
[52:57] was adamant with with the membership we
[52:59] started eight years ago i was adam and
[53:02] no people can come in any month and they
[53:04] can leave any month like they can come
[53:05] in for one month they might stay with us
[53:07] for seven years
[53:09] people have to have their freedom
[53:11] because like freedom is one of my core
[53:13] values by the way so i was laughing when
[53:14] you were talking about freedom because
[53:15] i've had to negotiate
[53:17] i've had to negotiate my personal story
[53:20] about freedom as things changed in my
[53:22] life
[53:23] yes i would i i get that
[53:26] i'm negotiating my personal
[53:28] relationship with freedom too
[53:30] um
[53:32] so where i'm at now with the membership
[53:34] is you can come in any day you want
[53:37] and it's another
[53:38] experience of evolving in front of
[53:41] everybody like we've made some changes
[53:43] and then you have a bunch of people say
[53:45] i don't like that you know i can't
[53:46] please everybody and then you know then
[53:48] you change that and people go i love it
[53:50] you know um and now i really want to
[53:52] change it nobody knows this yet but i
[53:54] really want to change how we're doing it
[53:56] and it's going to be radical and i'm
[53:58] going to have to step forward and say
[54:00] parts of this aren't working
[54:03] and for my own
[54:05] freedom so that i can serve more i want
[54:07] to do this
[54:09] and i hope you stay and this you can't
[54:11] you know as a someone with a business
[54:14] and i have a team of 10 people like i
[54:16] have responsibilities
[54:19] you have to think through these things
[54:21] when this is your livelihood
[54:23] i'm also figuring out how to be prepared
[54:25] if i need to be like lose my livelihood
[54:28] you know if there are major disruptions
[54:30] that come down the pike here
[54:32] and
[54:34] we can't just zoom
[54:37] um
[54:38] or money just
[54:40] digital things just evaporate
[54:43] then what do i do i'll go for a walk
[54:45] and
[54:47] i'm planting potatoes
[54:50] yeah in if if that moment comes it will
[54:54] it will come to you as it will come to
[54:56] all of us you know if if but we won't
[54:58] even
[54:59] we won't even we won't even visualize
[55:01] that right now but i i hear you too
[55:03] about being prepared
[55:04] um and just and just knowing
[55:07] you know kind of having some some idea
[55:09] of how you could adapt especially when
[55:11] you have a team and also
[55:12] a community like a community that you
[55:15] serve it's it's
[55:16] it's not just you anymore with your idea
[55:19] it's it's actually an active and alive
[55:21] thing in the world that's a relationship
[55:23] with so many people
[55:25] yeah it's a relationship
[55:27] you have to keep each other informed all
[55:29] the time
[55:30] yeah
[55:32] beautiful well
[55:33] danielle thank you very much for coming
[55:36] on today i've really really enjoyed
[55:38] talking to you and as i say seeing you
[55:40] out there in the field as a creator for
[55:42] many many years it's been really nice to
[55:44] meet you and be
[55:46] hear a bit more about what you're doing
[55:48] and also just um
[55:51] chew the fat on our
[55:54] never dull global situation right now so
[55:57] thank you for your transparency and your
[55:59] being
[56:00] oh you're so lovely thank you any time i
[56:03] would love to keep talking yeah yeah
[56:05] thank you and thank you everybody
[56:06] listening
[56:07] thank you and for everyone listening and
[56:09] watching um if you want to learn
[56:13] all of the things that danielle does or
[56:15] you want to engage with the heart
[56:16] centered membership or learn about the
[56:17] facilitator program we're going to put
[56:20] links as usual in the show notes
[56:22] underneath the show if you're watching
[56:25] on youtube
[56:26] or in the show notes over on apple
[56:28] podcasts and wherever you're listening
[56:30] to this um but to visit danielle's
[56:32] website you can find her at
[56:34] daniellelaporte.com
[56:36] and we'll also add a link to danielle's
[56:38] instagram which is a great instagram
[56:40] page with lots of goodness going on in
[56:42] so many ways so thank you for tuning in
[56:45] everyone and thank you again danielle
[56:47] thank you
[56:49] hello i'm lee harris i'm an intuitive
[56:52] and a channeler and every year in
[56:54] january i hold a rebirth course a way
[56:58] for us to look at the year that has gone
[57:01] and let go of what we no longer need and
[57:03] look ahead at the year to come and see
[57:06] what we might want to create in our life
[57:09] this year i'm going to be bringing a lot
[57:12] of channeling to my rebirth program so i
[57:15] will be channeling my guides
[57:17] several times throughout the course of
[57:19] the two-week program and they will be
[57:21] bringing transmissions through all based
[57:24] on empowerment
[57:26] when i was tuning in this year as to
[57:28] what the overarching theme for rebirth
[57:30] 2022 would be i heard very clearly from
[57:33] them the empowerment sessions so that is
[57:36] what they will be bringing in the
[57:38] channeled messages and i and my team
[57:41] will be supporting those messages
[57:43] with a series of video and audio
[57:45] presentations all designed to help you
[57:48] reconfigure who you want to be for the
[57:50] year ahead
[57:52] stephen washington will be teaching
[57:54] qigong and wellness practices
[57:57] i will also be doing a whole session on
[57:59] manifestation and creation and our
[58:02] habits and our patterns and how we can
[58:04] elevate and change those in order to
[58:07] bring in the new and my team members
[58:09] marty and wendy will be adding some
[58:11] support videos
[58:13] as well as an mp3 recording that you get
[58:16] as soon as you sign up called your
[58:18] garden of higher consciousness
[58:20] rebirth is always our biggest course of
[58:22] the year and so we have a very large
[58:25] community from all over the world who
[58:28] tune in and most importantly
[58:30] weigh in so we have a community forum
[58:34] that's completely private
[58:35] and it's where you and other members can
[58:38] share your experiences not only of the
[58:40] material but of what's going on in your
[58:43] life right now and what you're looking
[58:45] to cultivate
[58:46] so the group energy that forms around
[58:48] rebirth is very strong and we also have
[58:52] transcripts and worksheets and once you
[58:55] are in rebirth you will have lifetime
[58:58] access to all of the materials
[59:01] so even though we run most of these
[59:03] sessions live as live broadcasts you
[59:06] don't have to be able to be there live
[59:08] and if you do miss a live broadcast you
[59:11] will get the replay on video and in
[59:13] transcript form and audio within two
[59:16] days of the broadcast we begin on
[59:19] january 17th so if it resonates with you
[59:23] to join us for
[59:24] rebirth 2022 the empowerment sessions
[59:28] i my guides
[59:30] and my team would love to welcome you
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